{"id":15156,"date":"2014-08-18T19:47:54","date_gmt":"2014-08-18T16:47:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/add-energy.ro\/a-german-wants-to-give-you-some-money-without-doing-any-effort\/"},"modified":"2014-08-18T19:47:54","modified_gmt":"2014-08-18T16:47:54","slug":"a-german-wants-to-give-you-some-money-without-doing-any-effort","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/add-energy.ro\/en\/a-german-wants-to-give-you-some-money-without-doing-any-effort\/","title":{"rendered":"A German wants to give you some money without doing any effort"},"content":{"rendered":"

\n\t \n<\/p>\n

\n\tAfter<\/span> working<\/span> up<\/span> early<\/span> to live<\/span> with the profits<\/span> of 1300<\/span> dollars he<\/span> produce<\/span> each month<\/span> with his<\/span> business<\/span>,<\/span> Bohmeyer<\/span> says<\/span> that his life<\/span> changed.<\/span> So he<\/span> started<\/span> a new initiative<\/span> called "<\/span>My income<\/span> base<\/span>,"<\/span> seeking<\/span> to raise<\/span> enough money to<\/span> be able to<\/span> pay someone<\/span> 1300<\/span> dollars a month<\/span> for a year<\/span>,<\/span> without obligation.<\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t \n<\/p>\n

\n\tThe<\/span> system<\/span> crowdfunding<\/span> initiative<\/span> already<\/span> collected<\/span> more than the<\/span> 16,000<\/span> dollars<\/span> that was needed<\/span>.<\/span> On<\/span> September 18<\/span>,<\/span> will be announced<\/span> the lucky<\/span> winners of<\/span> the amount of money<\/span> at a party<\/span> in<\/span> Berlin.<\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t \n<\/p>\n

\n\tI talked<\/span> Bohmeyer<\/span> what<\/span> he thinks<\/span> might<\/span> come of it<\/span>, and how<\/span> was<\/span> life changed<\/span> now that<\/span> he no longer need<\/span>s to work.<\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t \n<\/p>\n

\n\tVICE<\/span>:<\/span> You<\/span> say about you<\/span> that you are a<\/span> lazy<\/span> person<\/span> ?<\/span><\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t \n<\/p>\n

\n\tMichael<\/span> Bohmeyer<\/span>: I would say<\/span> this, but I<\/span> think that being<\/span> lazy<\/span> is<\/span> not necessarily<\/span> a bad thing.<\/span> Other people<\/span> probably<\/span> would not<\/span> describe it as<\/span> lazy<\/span>.<\/span> I work a lot<\/span> –<\/span> even<\/span> more now<\/span>,<\/span> you do not have<\/span> to work<\/span> for money<\/span>.<\/span> I really<\/span> discovered<\/span> a passion for<\/span> dishwashing<\/span>.<\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t \n<\/p>\n

\n\tYou said<\/span> you have available<\/span> basic income<\/span> unconditionally<\/span> changed your<\/span> life<\/span> radically.<\/span> How so?<\/span><\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t \n<\/p>\n

\n\tAfter I<\/span> decided not to<\/span> work<\/span> this year<\/span> and I started<\/span> to live<\/span> with<\/span> the approximately<\/span> 1300<\/span> dollars that<\/span> produce<\/span> my company<\/span>,<\/span> all I wanted<\/span> to do was<\/span> to sit<\/span> with my belly<\/span> at the sun<\/span> and<\/span> do nothing<\/span>.<\/span> However<\/span>, I<\/span> found<\/span> a strong impulse<\/span> to do things<\/span>.<\/span> I have a million<\/span> ideas<\/span> for<\/span> business,<\/span> i take care of<\/span> my daughter<\/span> and I work<\/span> for<\/span> a radio station<\/span> of a local community<\/span>.<\/span> Buy less<\/span> crap<\/span>, live<\/span> healthier and<\/span> i am<\/span> both<\/span> a lover<\/span> and<\/span> a better father<\/span>.<\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t \n<\/p>\n

\n\tBecause<\/span> you have more time<\/span> for friends and<\/span> daughter ?<\/span><\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\tBecause i am<\/span> much<\/span> more careful.<\/span> There<\/span> are<\/span> squeezed<\/span>.<\/span> Working<\/span> conditions<\/span> were<\/span> great<\/span> even before<\/span>, because<\/span> I<\/span> own<\/span> the company and<\/span> could do<\/span> basically<\/span> everything that<\/span> I wanted<\/span>.<\/span> But I was<\/span> conditioned<\/span> by the need to<\/span> make money.<\/span> Now<\/span> i do what<\/span> I do<\/span> because<\/span> i choose<\/span> –<\/span> and<\/span> suddenly<\/span> everything became<\/span> twice as<\/span> fun.<\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t \n<\/p>\n

\n\tAre you<\/span> ever<\/span> bored<\/span> ?<\/span><\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\tI have no time<\/span>.<\/span> "<\/span>My income<\/span> base"<\/span> keeps me<\/span> busy<\/span> 20 of<\/span> 24 hours.<\/span> No kidding<\/span> –<\/span> just<\/span> get to<\/span> sleep.<\/span> Suddenly,<\/span> I have access to<\/span> some<\/span> huge energy<\/span> resources<\/span>, as<\/span> i do<\/span> 100<\/span>%<\/span> what I want<\/span> to do.<\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t \n<\/p>\n

\n\tSo<\/span> when you<\/span> quit<\/span> working for<\/span> money,<\/span> you started<\/span> to work<\/span> like crazy.<\/span> Pretty<\/span> ironic.<\/span><\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t \n<\/p>\n

\n\tAbsolut<\/span>.<\/span> It's funny<\/span> and<\/span> how we got here<\/span>.<\/span> Initially,<\/span> after I<\/span> quit<\/span> working for<\/span> pay<\/span>,<\/span> I thought it would<\/span> be<\/span> right<\/span> to find<\/span> a new project.<\/span> I rented<\/span> an office<\/span>, I made a<\/span> list and<\/span> I<\/span> appeared<\/span> there<\/span> in the morning.<\/span> Once<\/span> I was<\/span> so<\/span> stressed<\/span> about a month<\/span> without<\/span> diong much<\/span>, I<\/span> thought, "<\/span>Wait a minute<\/span>.<\/span> What<\/span> am I doing<\/span>?<\/span> "<\/span>So<\/span> I<\/span> actively<\/span> persuaded<\/span> to do nothing<\/span> for a month<\/span> –<\/span> I looked at<\/span> the sky<\/span>,<\/span> no phone, no<\/span> books<\/span>, nothing.<\/span> It was<\/span> physically<\/span> painful<\/span>.<\/span> But after a while<\/span>,<\/span> I did.<\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t \n<\/p>\n

\n\tWant<\/span> someone<\/span> to assure<\/span> a basic income<\/span> of<\/span> 1,300<\/span> dollars<\/span> for one year<\/span>,<\/span> without obligation.<\/span> What do you hope<\/span> to prove<\/span> or<\/span> discover<\/span> with<\/span> this ?<\/span><\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

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\tI was quite<\/span> surprised at<\/span> how it changed<\/span> my life<\/span> when<\/span> I have not<\/span> had to<\/span> work<\/span>.<\/span> I would<\/span> be<\/span> presumptuous<\/span> if I<\/span> was <\/span>based<\/span> on my experience<\/span>, but I think<\/span> everyone has a<\/span> fabulous<\/span> potential<\/span> that could be<\/span> unleashed<\/span> if it would not<\/span> have to<\/span> worry<\/span> about<\/span> income<\/span>.<\/span> Do not get me<\/span> wrong<\/span>, I believe<\/span> that making money<\/span> is<\/span> great<\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t \n<\/p>\n

\n\tTo work<\/span> and be<\/span> paid for it<\/span> –<\/span> it's great.<\/span> But<\/span> working<\/span> for the sole purpose<\/span> of making money<\/span>.<\/span> I'm<\/span> bored<\/span> of<\/span> the debate on<\/span> this<\/span> and the lack of<\/span> any<\/span> conclusions from<\/span> them.<\/span> So<\/span> I thought<\/span>:<\/span> let's try<\/span> this<\/span> and see<\/span> what happens<\/span> instead of waiting<\/span> after<\/span> politicians.<\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t \n<\/p>\n

\n\tWith<\/span> crowdfunding<\/span> you managed to<\/span> gather<\/span> so far<\/span> almost<\/span> 32,000<\/span> dollars –<\/span> enough money<\/span> to fund<\/span> two<\/span> average salaries<\/span> for one year<\/span>.<\/span> That means<\/span> two people who<\/span> will not<\/span> even<\/span> worry<\/span> about<\/span> there<\/span>.<\/span> However<\/span>, that does not<\/span> say much about<\/span> what would<\/span> happen if<\/span> noone<\/span> of us<\/span> takes care of<\/span> that.<\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n

\tOf course,<\/span> my project<\/span> is absolutely<\/span> stupid<\/span> for two reasons.<\/span> The first<\/span> is the limit<\/span> of<\/span> a year<\/span>, which means<\/span> that<\/span> we'll have<\/span> it again<\/span> anyway<\/span> to<\/span> somehow<\/span> earn your<\/span> living after<\/span> one year.<\/span> Secondly<\/span>, of course<\/span> it's a<\/span> big difference<\/span> if<\/span> only<\/span> I did not<\/span> have to<\/span> worry<\/span> about<\/span> daily<\/span> living<\/span> or<\/span> if no one<\/span> takes care of<\/span> it.<\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t \n<\/p>\n

\n\tSo it's<\/span> by no means<\/span> representative<\/span>.<\/span> But<\/span> even<\/span> helps us understand<\/span> what<\/span> it means to have<\/span> a basic income<\/span>.<\/span> And<\/span> talk about it<\/span>.<\/span> Because<\/span> it's not just<\/span> about the two<\/span> people who will<\/span> win<\/span> this thing.<\/span> It's about<\/span> the 21<\/span> 000 people who<\/span> have posted<\/span> on the site<\/span> what would make<\/span> if they had<\/span> the money<\/span>.<\/span> They say<\/span> they will not<\/span> idle<\/span>.<\/span> They<\/span> continue to<\/span> work<\/span>, but<\/span> without<\/span> much<\/span> stress both<\/span> –<\/span> they would like<\/span> to volunteer<\/span> or<\/span> to set up<\/span> theirs own company.<\/span> I think<\/span> things<\/span> would<\/span> be beneficial<\/span> to society.<\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t \n<\/p>\n

\n\tSo what<\/span> do you think<\/span> would happen<\/span> if we<\/span> all receive<\/span> a basic income<\/span> starting tomorrow<\/span>?<\/span><\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n

\tInitially,<\/span> it would not<\/span> change<\/span> much.<\/span> But<\/span> in long term<\/span>, I'm sure<\/span> people would<\/span> start to make<\/span> free<\/span> choices<\/span>,<\/span> without pressing<\/span> economic<\/span> plan<\/span>.<\/span> Would choose<\/span> based on what<\/span> they want<\/span> to do.<\/span> Would have time<\/span> to think about<\/span> what they want to<\/span> do or<\/span> what they<\/span> know<\/span>.<\/span> For now,<\/span> all<\/span> we<\/span> stress<\/span> to finish<\/span> school<\/span> and get<\/span> a<\/span> better paid<\/span> job<\/span>.<\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t \n<\/p>\n

\n\tOk<\/span>,<\/span> talk about<\/span> people<\/span> dealing<\/span> with<\/span> university degrees<\/span> are expected<\/span> not only<\/span> to be able to<\/span> pay the rent<\/span> of<\/span> salary,<\/span> but as<\/span> the job<\/span> to be<\/span> liked<\/span> and to<\/span> perform.<\/span> And<\/span> then<\/span> what to do<\/span> with<\/span> underpaid<\/span> janitors<\/span> who<\/span> clean<\/span> the<\/span> toilets<\/span> or<\/span> the<\/span> call center<\/span>'s or<\/span> those who care<\/span> for the elderly<\/span>?<\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

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\tI am not speaking<\/span> only<\/span> of the privileged<\/span>.<\/span> Anyone with<\/span> a basic income<\/span> are in<\/span> a better position<\/span> when negotiating<\/span> with employers.<\/span> The guy who<\/span> cleans the<\/span> toilets<\/span> can say, "<\/span>Mister<\/span>,<\/span> I do<\/span> not<\/span> accept<\/span> that<\/span> money.<\/span>"<\/span> And the<\/span> employer could<\/span> say, "<\/span>Let's<\/span> automated<\/span> cleaning<\/span> toilets<\/span>.<\/span>"<\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t \n<\/p>\n

\n\tYes<\/span>,<\/span> but you can not<\/span> automate<\/span> the jobs<\/span> of those who<\/span> care for<\/span> children or<\/span> the<\/span> elderly<\/span>.<\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

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\tRight.<\/span> In these cases<\/span>, people have<\/span> to wonder<\/span> what it's worth<\/span> to society.<\/span> We need to<\/span> increase<\/span> the salaries of these<\/span> people.<\/span> It's<\/span> important to have<\/span> clean toilets<\/span>.<\/span> It is important to<\/span> care for<\/span> the children<\/span> properly<\/span> –<\/span> and yet<\/span> these people<\/span> are<\/span> underpaid<\/span>.<\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t \n<\/p>\n

\n\tI'd<\/span> like to work<\/span> in a kindergarten<\/span>.<\/span> But if you<\/span> compare<\/span> that with a<\/span> job<\/span> in the<\/span> IT<\/span> field<\/span>, I wonder<\/span> if it's worth<\/span>.<\/span> If I had<\/span> a basic income<\/span>, I could<\/span> still take<\/span> advantage of this<\/span> option.<\/span> And I'm sure<\/span> I'd<\/span> do better<\/span> as a<\/span> kindergarten<\/span> teacher<\/span> than as<\/span> IT<\/span>-ist<\/span>.<\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t \n<\/p>\n

\n\tThe group of people<\/span> who support<\/span> a basic income<\/span> for everyone<\/span> is very<\/span> diverse<\/span> – from<\/span> leftists<\/span>, members of the<\/span> Green Party<\/span> antroposofists<\/span> to<\/span> German<\/span> Liberal<\/span> Party members<\/span>.<\/span> Where<\/span> do you fit<\/span> in<\/span> this spectrum<\/span>?<\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n

\tNowhere<\/span>.<\/span> Basic income<\/span> does not fit into<\/span> this chart<\/span> right to left<\/span>.<\/span> It is<\/span> partly<\/span> socialist<\/span>,<\/span> because the program<\/span> requires<\/span> equality for all<\/span>.<\/span> E<\/span> and<\/span> individualistic<\/span>,<\/span> because it demands<\/span> less bureaucracy<\/span>.<\/span> It's<\/span> neither<\/span> right nor<\/span> left<\/span>;<\/span> is<\/span> a<\/span> third way<\/span>.<\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t \n<\/p>\n

\n\tToday<\/span>,<\/span> politicians<\/span> use it<\/span> as a<\/span> socio-political<\/span> tool<\/span> to<\/span> manipulate<\/span> people to do<\/span> what they want.<\/span> I think<\/span> this<\/span> strategy<\/span> was<\/span> outdated and<\/span> no longer works.<\/span> Let's<\/span> give people<\/span> some money<\/span> and see<\/span> what they will do<\/span> if they have<\/span> this<\/span> freedom<\/span> to<\/span> decide<\/span>.<\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t \n<\/p>\n

\n\tWhat are you<\/span> trying to prove<\/span> by<\/span> this?<\/span><\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\tI think we can<\/span> geta change,<\/span> if<\/span> we let<\/span> people<\/span> build their own<\/span> change.<\/span> Can<\/span> you force<\/span> people to do something<\/span> they do not want<\/span> to do,<\/span> but you can not<\/span> convince them<\/span>.<\/span> And especially<\/span>,<\/span> you can not<\/span> force<\/span> to take<\/span> jobs that<\/span> do not exist.<\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t \n<\/p>\n

\n\t"The Myth of<\/span> employment<\/span> entire population<\/span> who<\/span> has no<\/span> idea that<\/span> job<\/span> no<\/span> sincere effort<\/span>"<\/span>.<\/span> What do you think<\/span> about this?<\/span><\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\tIt<\/span> sucks<\/span>.<\/span> In<\/span> modern<\/span> capitalism<\/span>, it is not<\/span> possible for all<\/span> to have a<\/span> job<\/span>.<\/span> It is necessary<\/span> to have a<\/span> reserve army<\/span> of<\/span> unpaid<\/span> labor force<\/span> to keep<\/span> the<\/span> underpaid<\/span> as it is.<\/span> Paid<\/span> there are not enough<\/span> jobs<\/span> for everyone.<\/span> Meanwhile,<\/span> forces people<\/span> to take<\/span> jobs that<\/span> do not exist.<\/span> It is<\/span> cruel<\/span>.<\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t \n<\/p>\n

\n\tWhat other<\/span> myths<\/span> bothers you?<\/span><\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\tPeople say<\/span>:<\/span> "Of course<\/span> I would<\/span> continue to<\/span> work<\/span> even if I<\/span> have a<\/span> base salary<\/span> provided<\/span>, but<\/span> others<\/span> will not<\/span> do that.<\/span>"<\/span> From here<\/span> I want to start<\/span>.<\/span> I want to<\/span> prove<\/span> that almost all<\/span> people would do<\/span> something useful with<\/span> their lives<\/span> if they had<\/span> some money<\/span> make<\/span> monthly<\/span> –<\/span> you're<\/span> just<\/span> not<\/span> that<\/span> smart and<\/span> hardworking<\/span>.<\/span> People will<\/span> they<\/span> to contribute to a<\/span> better world.<\/span> You just<\/span> give them<\/span> the chance.<\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t \n<\/p>\n

\n\tPeople say<\/span> a lot of things<\/span> when you ask them<\/span>.<\/span> That does not mean<\/span> they are going<\/span> to take<\/span> their word.<\/span><\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\tCourse<\/span>.<\/span> But<\/span> if you look at<\/span> the<\/span> 1.4 million people<\/span> in Germany<\/span> who<\/span> could be based on<\/span> unemployment,<\/span> but still<\/span> prefer to work<\/span> while<\/span> wages<\/span> barely<\/span> ensure<\/span> there<\/span> –<\/span> I would say<\/span> with conviction<\/span> that people<\/span> are lazy<\/span> in general.<\/span> Even in<\/span> the current system<\/span>.<\/span>\n<\/p>\n

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